Leave Henry alone
By Raphael Honigstein

The furore surrounding Thierry Henry’s handball against the Irish reminded me of an incident in Germany a few years ago. In October 2004, Gladbach’s Oliver Neuville scored a goal with his hand against Kaiserslautern in the Bundesliga. The referee missed it but the TV replays showed the misdemeanour so clearly that the German Football Assiociaton felt the need to act. The goal – and Gladbach’s 2-0 win  - stood but Neuville was banned for two games for „gross unsporting conduct“. Like Henry, the Germany striker admitted using his hand after the match and said he would have told the referee if he had been asked at the time.

While many saw the punishment for Neuville fitting, a few commentators had doubts. Why was it, they asked, that the retroactive punishment by way of video-evidence was much harsher than the one meted out by the referee on the pitch would have been? If the referee had seen the handball, Neuville would have only been booked. Deliberate handball in the pursuit of a goal is categorically not a red-card offence. By using the “unsporting conduct” paragraph, a handy catch-all provision, the German FA seemed to disregard their own rules in order to make a moral judgement.

Five years on, many experts and fans call for Henry to be banned for the group stage of the World Cup in South Africa. He should have told the referee, they say. He had a chance to be honest but didn’t take it. He’s a cheat. On the internet, some are campaigning for a boycott of his sponsors to teach the Frenchman a lesson.

To me, it all smacks of a witch hunt. The reaction is totally disproportionate to the crime. Yes, handling the ball is not allowed. Henry did commit an offence. Many Irish players saw it at the time, the referee didn’t, modern TV technology ensured that the rest of the world did. Now ask yourself this: why did Ireland’s Robbie Keane complain so bitterly to the referee when he himself was spotted handling the ball a couple of times earlier in the game? Shouldn’t he have said “sorry, ref, you’re right, it won’t happen again”? Furthermore, what would have happened if the referee hadn’t seen Keane handling the ball and the Spurs striker would have gone on to score? Could we have expected him to tell the referee and ask for the goal to be annulled?

You might think that “everybody would have done the same” is not a valid defence for Henry. And maybe it isn’t. But there’s another part to this argument, and it’s really a simple one: it’s grossly unfair to expect Henry to adhere to lofty moral principles when his direct opponents wouldn’t dream about doing the same. Robbie Fowler, the Liverpool striker, once confessed to the referee that the defender hadn’t actually tripped him up in the box. Miroslav Klose did the same, when he was playing for Lautern: he told the ref, who already whistled for a spot-kick, that he was mistaken. There are other, similar cases. On the other hand, I have yet to witness a single incident of a defender informing the referee that he had missed a foul on the striker in the box and should point to the spot, please.

I doubt that it will ever happen. Breaking the rules is considered okay and natural when you’re defending a goal but  as some sort of crime against humanity when you’re the striker, handling the ball or exaggerating contact in search of a penalty. The only reason for that is habit. In moral terms, I can’t see any difference at all. If anything, we should be more lenient towards the striker, as his work is both more difficult – there are very few goals at the highest level – and the more desirable one. Football, it should be remembered, is about scoring goals. If once every blue moon a striker gets a lucky break because a referee is unsighted, so be it. If you want justice, take it up with FIFA and their stupid refusal to allow video evidence. But leave Henry alone.

78  Comments
22.11.2009 13:53
Henry deserves better after 15 years of unbridled service to the game. He is a Legend. And we love him forever.http://11gunners.com/opinion/hey-henry-we-still-love-you-mate/2609/
By JB
22.11.2009 15:13
Wise words Rafa...whilst I have never liked Henry and have always found him quite snidey (witness his goal celebrations in particular at Arsenal, baiting of away fans etc) but all this hysterical, hypocritical bluster from players, media, fans etc this week has made me feel sick. ALL footballers cheat, all supporters bay for anything their side can gain. The teams that win things bend more rules (cheat) than most, look at Ferguson, Wenger and Mourinho as a classic example. Fair play in the whole of football is a rarity, bad attitudes exit in all levels, I have witness this first hand working in kids football for ten years. This will never change. Football is a wonderful game of chaos, logic goes out of the window, that's why we love it. Watch any average weekend of football highlights and you will see why TV evidence during games can never ever work, there are hundreds of decisions made in every game including countless grey areas that TV never resolves 100%. Enough has been said now about this ONE incident, now all the bleaters should pick themselves up and move on.
22.11.2009 15:13
While being one of the most outstanding player of his times, Henry is and has always been a bit pompous on the pitch, and - I guess - this case was fat in the fire. I get your point, Rafa, but the sheer fact that there are other players doing it, doesn't make it any more acceptable. It is not Robbie Keane or Diego Maradona who judged him, but the whole football world. His celebration of the goal didn't help either, and the way he tried to comfort the Irish players after the final whistle is also controversial. If not the first than the second touch was deliberate, which he has also failed to admit. Bad example, very baaad.On the other hand the real focus should be on FIFA and the video evidence. Quick question, anyway. When you hear about all the efforts of fair play and respect, what does it make you think, when the official webpage of FIFA doesn't even mention the handplay, and also removes all the live comments from readers? Don't bother to answer, it was just a rhetorical question. (sorry, for being this long)
22.11.2009 15:24
Sorry Henrik, You MISSED my point. “Cheating” to me is: a) bribing the referee, b) poisoning the food of the opposition, c) doping or c) pretending you’ve been hit by missile from the crowd, splashing fake blood on your forehead. Committing a foul or handling the ball is not cheating. If it was, the punishment for these offences wouldn’t be yellow cards but lengthy bans. What Henry did was a normal foul and should be treated accordingly. Just ask yourself this: if Henry would have been fouled in the box without the referee noticing and as a result, Ireland would have gone through, would anyone accuse them of cheating? Of course not.
22.11.2009 15:48
It did not used the word 'cheat', Rafa, however, I do think that touching the ball on purpose qualifies as cheating - just as the other examples you mentioned. The referee was - hopefully - wrong, but things were beyond his control, while it is not true for Henry. By getting your point Iment that I agree with you about the unnecessary ban of Henry from the world cup, that would be just an other shame, so my judgement is only moral, not _technical_.
22.11.2009 15:51
edit: what I meant was that the referee - hopefully - not on purpose let it go, and was simply wrong.
22.11.2009 16:00
So handling the ball is cheating but taking down a player intentionally is just a foul? Why?
22.11.2009 16:08
I agree Raphael, I sometimes get the feeling that the likes of Sky and the English based newspapers try install an agenda against rivals to get changes made to favour them. Henry is not the first, nor will he the last to be crafty, and he isn't cheating either, I'd rate dangerous tackles more of a problem than handballs and 'diving'. I also think that the sentiments in France of wanting a replay are more against Domenech than trying to conform to fair play, had Roger Lemerre still been coach and Henry did that, there wouldn't be such an outcry there. Interesting you also mention it from a defenders point of view, so many of them get away with tackles that should be penalties, yet none of them ever own up, and when they do, they say it is up to the referee to make the call, no different to Henry.
By JB
22.11.2009 16:11
Rafa, you talking far too sensibly in this debate. If you believe the majority of the English/Irish media, this is a crime worst than murder. A 'professional foul' would be considered as acceptable as it's part of proper old football when it was a 'man's game'! Listen to the likes of Alan Brazil and the other rabid oiks of the media, and some who consider themselves more high brow (did you see Henry Winter on Sky’s Sunday Supplement this morning?) and this type of 'cheating' is all the fault of the influx of foreign players. I'm quite sure if this was one of the similar misdemeanours that the likes of Rooney, Gerrard and more pertinently Robbie Keane that was in the spotlight, then it would have been treated quite differently.
22.11.2009 16:14
shameful... henry is not to be hated, but what he did was disrespectful to the game of football, altogether. dont defend him... and admit that he cheated. he didnt even have the decency to not celebrate after the goal. and to add salt to the wound, after knowing that replay is not an option,he comes in the press conf. to say that it would be the fairest solution. henry dosent deserve to play in this world cup, and should be banned. (the first connection with the hand might have been accidental, but the flick on to his boot, with his fingers, was never so...) HE says, it was a "spur-of-the-moment" reaction!!! when defenders Tackle with two feet(instinctively), breaking a strikers foot, they get a lengthy ban(completely deserved, and justified); but when henry handles the ball (deliberately/instinctively, whatever), breaking the hopes and dreams of 80 million+ fans all over the world, its completely okay........... My problem is not with henry handling the ball, its with him blatantly celebrating after it, and cheekily asking for a replay, when he knew it couldnt be done... every1 has his own opinions bout this, and in mine, henrys a cheat!
22.11.2009 16:25
Strictly from technical point of view you are right, Rafa, I have to give that. But somehow, it is just not the same FOR ME, handling tha ball is totally against the nature of the game. Spitting somebody in the hair, showing a birdie to your own fans, or running eighty meters to celebrate in front of your ex-club fans are all regarded to be unsportmanship behaviour/conduct still by far they are not the same. Last season Tim Wiese kicked Olic's head off, still nobody remembers it, but if there is one thing you recall about Schumacher... I guess fans work like this. You tackle someone intentionally, you become a 'butcher', you use your hand, you become a 'cheat'. But yes, all this is a bit like Catch22, and again, technically, _legally_ you are right I think.
22.11.2009 16:27
Sam, I take your point but disagree with the analogy. Deliberate hand ball is categorically not a sending-off offence (unless you're preventing a goal) but violent conduct is. I ask you, again the same question: would you accuse an Irish defender who intentionally fouled a French strikerin the box of cheating?
22.11.2009 17:23
depends on the situation, rafa... if the tackle was delib. and the french player was in a goal scoring position or not... basically dude, circumstances change evrything... this game had high stakes put on it... and im not saying that he shouldve been sent off. he shudve been booked at max, and the goal shudve been disallowed... im not saying that the irish deserved a world cup spot; im saying that they deserved a penalty shootout. similarly, im not saying henry needs to be hanged, im sayin he needs to be banned, from fifa wc 2010... he is a great player, there is no denying that, but that shudnt come in the way of the fact that in doing what he did, he embarrased himself, the beautiful game, and 3 unlucky refs(along with tarnishing the image of the french nat. team).... and he should be punished for that.
22.11.2009 17:29
Sam, all I want to know from you is this: is a defender who deliberately fouls a striker without getting caught by the ref a cheat? should he be banned? should there be a rematch? if your answers are no, then I can't see why Henry has become such a pariah...
22.11.2009 17:40
Agreed Raphael, the slating of Henry needs to end. As an Arsenal fan he was a great servant to us for many years. What he has done is not acceptable, but ultimately it is up to FIFA to do something about using Video Technology, working with a TMO like in Rugby.Also people have seem to forgotten that Ireland had missed some guilt edge chances to win the game and need to look at themselves as opposed to this victim conciseness of 'The Hand of Henry'. And who's to say they would have won on penalties anyway!!!
22.11.2009 17:44
i told ya man, depends on the circumstances... yes, he shud be banned,and no rematch, as it is impossible(and we should abide by the rules)... youd see rafa, if what you say wudve happened, then whoever the defender mite hav been, wouldve been accused of a thousand things too... the only thing stopping henry from his judgement is people like you, who are not being able to look beyond his superstar aura...
22.11.2009 17:46
AS I SAID,<quoting myself>: "m not saying that the irish deserved a world cup spot; im saying that they deserved a penalty shootout. similarly, im not saying henry needs to be hanged, im sayin he needs to be banned, from wc 2010"
22.11.2009 17:56
You say that: 'committing a foul or handling the ball is not cheating. If it was, the punishment for these offences wouldn’t be yellow cards but lengthy bans' Cheating is defined as an attempt to defraud, to deceive others. It is therefore an intentional act. The reason that punishment for 'handling or committing a foul' is not of a lengthy nature is simply because in many cases the above offences are not intentional and thus not acts of cheating - football is a quick game where in many cases defenders do unintentionally foul others by sticking their out their leg in an attempt to cleanly dispossess their opponent. Likewise the ball may travel too quick for innocent players to move their hands out of its trajectory. However it is when intent lies behind these actions that they, in my opinion, are classified as cheating. Therefore it is upon reviewing the video evidence that one could rightly call Henry a cheat. That second touch, so slight yet so devastating, convinces me of his intent to defraud. On your last comment, determining with confidence that an Irish defender intentionally fouled a Frenchman in the box is too difficult given the nature of tackling an the speed of the game. For the record Rafael, if (let us assume) the Irishman is aware of his actions, then yes, for me, he is a cheat. Proving intention is difficult and a problem that, as Wenger rightly pointed out after Eduardo’s propensity to fall to the ground was brought to attention earlier this season, video evidence may not solve.
22.11.2009 17:57
Sam, Believe me, I don't care one bit about his aura. If anything, I always found him a bit annoying. But that doesn't change my view of the situation. I still can't see why he should be banned for a foul that would have resulted in a simple yellow card if detected on the pitch while nobody would ever dream about bringing the same case against a defender who fouled.
22.11.2009 18:08
Ricardo, If any intentional foul is cheating, than the overall majority of fouls in the professional game are incidents of cheating. Just think about the shirt pulling before every single corner: clearly intentional and therefore cheating, right? I think this definition of cheating is absurd. Committing an intentional foul is committing an intentional foul, nothing more. The intent will in most cases aggravate the punishment but I think it makes no sense to say a player tripping up his opponent deliberately is committing some kind of fraud. Let me clarify the "Irish defender" example for you. Let's say he has clearly, unequivocally taken out the striker. If the ref had seen it, it would have been a red card for professional foul . But he didn't. Should this defender be treated as cheat and banned after the event. I say no.
22.11.2009 18:20
rafa, its the principle of it, not the process.... he didnt just handball... evrything has a greater consequence; and he should pay for the consequence. are you not understanding the weight of that qualifying game? or are you not familiar with morals?
22.11.2009 18:34
Well Raphael, it depends on your definition of cheating. Shirt pulling? Yes indeed - cheating is rife in football.
22.11.2009 18:51
I'm familiar with morals but the problem is they vary widely and are intrinsically subjective. Therefore, I prefer clear, written laws and rules that everybody has to adhere to. You might think that handling the ball in the box in the pursuit of a goal should be a sending-off offence, on par with violent conduct etc. The rules say it isn't.
22.11.2009 18:54
Ricardo,I told you my definition above. Applying your definition to the reality of football, I think the consequences would be patently absurd.
22.11.2009 19:05
thats the thing ur not getting, isnt it? circumstances change, rafa, and people, players, personalities change with them... its impossible for pre-written laws to be applied for two occurrences which might seem the same, but are completely different...
22.11.2009 19:09
we grow up playing football, we think that we're never gonna cheat, but at some point we do, and thats why we need referees(and their instincts), thats what free kicks, cards and bans were introduced for; to reprimand players from cheating. ive coached an u-12 team, and the first thing i told em was that "we win, because we play football; not because we can bamboozle the ref, or scare the opponents"... what henry did was against footballing ethics, and i dont care who does it, i want harsh punishment for him, because hes setting a bad example...
22.11.2009 19:24
Sam, you're 100% right. I totally fail to understand how these "circumstances", "weight of the game" etc alter the realities of what happened on the pitch. The rules of the game are very clear. They say that handling the ball is like dissent or a regular foul. This is not a question of morality. Are you familiar with "the rule of law"? Two of its basic tenets: 1. everyone is the same before the law. 2. you can't punish someone retrospectively for something that wasn't a crime at the time. I believe FIFA must change its stand on video evidence but I'm very happy they don't react to the self-righteous indignation of self-appointed "football moralists" who want to interpret the rules to fit their own agenda.
22.11.2009 19:26
PS: I agree with your general stance on fair-play, I really do.
22.11.2009 19:31
dunno rafa... fifa's actions demand criticism... from seeding the playoffs to this... something feels horribly wrong...
22.11.2009 19:32
and in the end, im more of a henry fan than that of irish football, but i still want common sense to prevail...
By dmitri
22.11.2009 20:09
after reading this i havent changed my last position on the issue. no replays for me. its acceptable to ban Henry for handling the ball. also punish the referee for missing out on such occasion. if television could prove that a Slovenian benchwarmer had provoked Zhirkov, ban the benchwarmer too. and then, ban Maradona for the 86 incident, and for calling Shilton a ... bottle-head ... was it? that way he can't coach Argentina throughout 2010. who else? Felaini for his hair. Arshavin for failing to inspire. the entire Portugal team for qualifying (that's cheating, that!) -- Lord! Let's vote the 32 teams we want to see in South Africa!
23.11.2009 01:59
Raphael Honigstein, you are wrong. Maradonna got 2 months ban because of his hand of God. What rules that FIFA used in 1986 to justify that? Your essay was simplistic!!! The only difference between hand of God and "henball" is one is direct goal converting, while the other indirect.
23.11.2009 09:54
kmmak2000. you are mistaken, my friend. Maradonna was banned for his recent insults against the press for two months, not for the hand of god in 1986. Would have been difficult for him to win the World Cup from the stands....
23.11.2009 10:40
I am talking about 1986. Don't confuse. He was banned after the 1986 WC, not this year 2009. Read history my friend. Read what happened right after 1986 WC. Are you sober? Do not pretend!
23.11.2009 10:51
Raphael Honigstein, Do you know who is Maradona? Have you seen him kicked at the opponents heart in a WC match. Have you seen him dive when an opponent in the mid of the field, not in the box area? Do you know he was a drug addict?
23.11.2009 10:56
kmmak2000, I don't think there's much point continuing this debate. Next thing you'll tell me that "history" proves that Maradona shot JFK, handled the ball against Ireland and sang "Like a Virgin".
23.11.2009 11:13
Raphael Honigstein, I have more examples:"Real Madrid forward Raúl was banned for scoring with his hand in a Champions League game by UEFA. Mauro Tassotti was banned for eight games by FIFA for elbowing Spain's Luís Enrique during a World Cup quarter-final at USA 94 after the incident had been missed by the referee.More famously, Italian defender Marco Materazzi was handed a two-match ban and fined €5,000 (£4,500) for inciting France's Zinedine Zidane to head-butt him in the 2006 World Cup final after a panel reviewed footage of the game."http://www.zeenews.com/news581172.html (accessed today)
23.11.2009 11:14
are you an idot?
23.11.2009 11:14
really no need to debate any more
23.11.2009 11:14
bye for ever
23.11.2009 11:18
don't leave yet, kmmak2000. Please send a link for the Maradona two-month ban in 1986. I would like to learn from history, I really would.
23.11.2009 11:19
I think you born 1990. I born 1953.
23.11.2009 11:20
bye forever
23.11.2009 11:25
still waiting...
By JB
23.11.2009 14:05
Can't remember many front pages, radio phone in's, current players, ex players, hypocritical journalists etc, crying 'foul' when Peter Crouch pulled the hair of Brent Sancho of Trinidad and Tobago that enabled him to score a vital opening goal in a crucial WORLD CUP fixture!
23.11.2009 17:22
so jb, according to you, crouch did nothing wrong?
By JB
23.11.2009 17:27
Not at all, did I say that? I was highlighting the hypocrisy of this whole Henry debate. Yes he did wrong, this happens all the time but never with as much indignation and supposed high moral snobbery from the media in general, that has been shown here. I can't stand Henry, never have, but that was for other reasons, I just think here that the mass feeding frenzy of the sheep like masses in this particular issue, has reached a ludicrous limit.
23.11.2009 17:30
therefore, henry should be punished, so that in the future, another player dosent do the same, and we comment "you left henry alone,so dont punish this guy"...
By JB
23.11.2009 18:23
In a perfect world you might hope that would work, but history suggests this it never will as punishments dealt out are never consistent. Do you think that the level of attention this story has received is comparable to other such 'footballing misdemeanours' and how does it sit with you when the likes of Robbie Keane does exactly the same thing as Henry in the same game, and then afterwards complains of "conspiracy" , Sam?
23.11.2009 18:41
totally agree with you JB. And the example of Crouch is an excellent one.
23.11.2009 18:49
robbie keane gets booked, henry dosent; instead, he gets a goal...fair enough? <even though im hating myself for saying this> i hope something like this happens to ur national team... it will put things perfectly into perspective for you all...
23.11.2009 18:55
Sam, you don't understand the point. Of course Henry should have been booked. But that's it. Handling the ball is a bookable offence. End of story. As for my national team: they cheated Algeria in collusion with Austria in 1982, it felt awful, even though we were on the winning side. You won't hear me asking for Henry to be punished if he scores a hand of goal goal against us, either.
23.11.2009 19:08
rafa, this quarrel is never gonna end, is it? in the end, its best left gray... addio amico...
By dmitri
23.11.2009 21:21
sure it wont end, if the quarrel is whether to punish Henry or not. the quarell should be about what is defined as cheat and what isn't. that definition is so vague that punishing Henry now would turn us into hypocrites for not punishing the likes of Crouch, Maradona or other 'should be offenders' when it should matter. Georgi from Bulgaria at Footbo also reminded us with a nice piece list. why suddenly punish Henry alone and not the rest? -- this is a matter of how much we want to drive differences into absurdity, or whether we want to accept our own limitations. personally, i'd like the debate to go further. can Footbo set-up an official forum with panelists?
24.11.2009 05:48
@dmitri, this is not right is it,? the punishment needs to start at some point in time... question is, when? and why not now(better late than never)? its not about henry... like i said, its about the principles...
24.11.2009 07:13
It's a sad thing that Irish missed out on WC due to "unprofessional" incident...but ..Is it the first time such incidents happen on a football ground? Henry handled the ball..but who is supposed to control the game ? If one was expecting all players to be angels - why would we need refs ?And as far as a rematch..fair enough lets have a rematch between spurs and Man U coz Roy Carroll cleared the ball from inside the goal line and failed to admit it and Italy vs Korea coz Totti was sent off for diving and the defender didnt put up hs hand for a bad tackle...Stuttgart vs Man U coz Ronaldo blatantly dived after Hildebrand "picked" the ball from his feet... So if those were acceptable and was "part" of the game , then why this should be different....
24.11.2009 14:03
so according to you, we should dit back and let it all happen... and mike, ireland dint miss out on a wc spot... if they deserved anything, it was a penalty shootout...
24.11.2009 17:35
raf, i agree with your initial comment. the bottom line for me is we need video evidence! there not a single reason why we shoudnt have it. The fact that you break up the game is completely irrelevant to me. What you want is for the ref to make the right decison and therefore you need video evidence. A possibility would be for every manager to have 1 challenge per half. if he is right he still has that one challenge. Its really time for a change, football is so old school its a joke.
By dmitri
25.11.2009 05:22
@Sam: dont get too far with this. we arent letting it all happen. apart from definition of cheating, it's also about quality of referee. video replays could help - but i cant accept stoppages. ok, a limited use of it, as Steven suggest above, might prove practical, so worth trying. still, not many could afford video installations just yet. for the moment, i favor fixing post-match punishment regulations. perhaps a comittee (of fans?) would watch games everyday, to judge incidents and weight punishments for players who got away with 'cheats.'
25.11.2009 06:32
dunno... the system has far too many loopholes... one thing is cert; even if the henry case is let go, something must be done in the future....
25.11.2009 06:33
@dmitri. a committee of fans might add to more chaos, wudnt it?
26.11.2009 08:18
No matter what gets thrown at them Henry and Vienna always get through it. I love the pairing of these two. I hope this storyline keeps them in the spot light, but they have got to get back together. http://www.goarticles.com/cgi-bin/showa.cgi?C=2236872
26.11.2009 14:13
to every1 in support of Henry I'm not trying to offend any of you but I have to be very honest here. Back when he was in the EPL, when he scores against arch rivals Tottenham he will go and run to the Spurs fans with his cocky celebrations slamming his hand against his chest and shouting at the crowd with mock gestures. disgusting. how come Henry back then could get away with it yet Adebayor couldn't? Guess cos Arsenal Fans can't take it. i can still remember when he scored one free kick he just stood there and nodded his head. disgusting arrogance. Henry has always been the biggest cheat in my book and the way he celebrated after Gallas scored just speaks wonders. If i was Pep Guardiola i'd be too disgusted that he's associated with such a FINE club like barcelona and just leave him on the bench. Sorry gunners fans, henry has left such a poor legacy behind as clearly seen by Adebayor's behavior. where did young Emmanuel learn all his nonsense from? non other den his mentor Thierry Henry, once arse always arse.
26.11.2009 14:19
End of the day what needs to be done is to make Henry an example to the entire footballing world so that this kind of thing won't happen again. Time after time this guy gets away with murder and is setting a poor example to all the young budding strikers of the world. We don't another Henry in this world thats for sure. His skill, yes, i would love to see another Henry, his character? bah! http://oooolaaalaaa.blogspot.com
26.11.2009 14:37
RedDevil: Did you think Roy Carroll set a good example for goal-keepers? Why wasn't he made an example of?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-8dOjeVC80
26.11.2009 14:45
Raphael: U are 100% right and i'm very aware of that incident. My father is a spurs fan and till this day he won't let me forget my team's former goalkeeper was a dirty cheat. Till now I'm still very disappointed with Roy Carroll and i hope he never wears the Man Utd jersey again. As a Man Utd fan i would be glad to see Roy made an example of back then and Spurs given the goal. but i stand by the fact that Henry is still one of the most dirtiest players in the game.
27.11.2009 06:10
Henry is the dirtiest player because he celebrated infront of opp. fans , Nodded his head when he scored and handles the ball once in 15 years...cool...Wonder if Eric Cantona look after scoring would make him dirty too...And Wayne Rooney ????
27.11.2009 11:06
dude dude dude... u can't compare Henry's "legacy of crap" to Cantona or Rooney mann
27.11.2009 14:05
I'm not a big fan of Henry but one hand ball, one or two dives and celebrating in front of Spurs fans doesn't exactly make him Vinnie Jones now, does it?
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27.11.2009 19:10
Henry is definitely a bigger legend than Rooney. The latter is the one you cannot compare to Cantona or Henry.
27.11.2009 19:29
cantona>henry... dude, wherve u been?
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27.11.2009 20:55
I was talking about the comparison with Henry and Rooney. I have never seen Cantona play anyways.
By dmitri
29.11.2009 10:19
@sam: true, fans wld make chaos. But at least with some legit popular voting system we keep incidents alive so players discouraged from acting n cheating
29.11.2009 14:47
maybe? am i on the elite panel? :P
By dmitri
29.11.2009 16:58
Your voice count for three, man :)
29.11.2009 18:11
lol! then im with yeh!
15.12.2009 00:52
Hi,http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-cup-2010/how-long-until-we-forgive-thierry-henry.html#commentsScroll and read all that I ve said. kmmak2000
15.12.2009 04:52
reports say that henry was so dissapointed after the france vs ireland hand-ball incident, that he wanted to kick himself... but the dilemma was, which hand to use? lol
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